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EIs it due to the sailor high she is sporting that day? When it involves improvising a lunch with Ludivine Sagnier on the finish of wet February, the thought of ​​a meal on a ship is clear. We wander a little bit alongside the Seine on the lookout for a tavern. And it’s on the pontoon of the barge “Annette K”, moored on the port of Javel (Paris 15e arrondissement), that we find yourself settling down.

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The relaxed ambiance of this huge barge which homes a restaurant, a live performance corridor, a swimming pool and a gymnasium corresponds nicely to the actress's frame of mind. This certainly shows, on the eve of the resumption of the present The consent on the Théâtre du Rond-Point*, nice leisure. “I have just returned from a few days of vacation in the sun. How could I be stressed? » she smiled.

A confusing naturalness

Ludivine Sagnier says she is delighted to bring to the stage this piece taken from Vanessa Springora's story, where she directly addresses the theme of the influence of a fifty-year-old writer (in this case Gabriel Matzneff, never mentioned in the text) over a girl. 14 years old. In this shocking show, the actress plays with astonishing naturalness this schoolgirl who fell into the clutches of a pedophile.

Alone on stage, just accompanied by the musician Pierre Belleville, whose drum solos punctuate the piece with pieces composed by Dan Levy, restoring the pulsation of an adolescent heart in complete confusion of the senses, she reveals herself with a so accurate that we wouldn't be surprised if she won a Molière on April 24. We tell her, she enjoys it. “The play deserves it,” she whispers.

READ ALSO Meet Corinne Maier: “It’s up to women to make things happen!” » The expertise described by Vanessa Springora in any case surprisingly echoes that described by Judith Godrèche final January. Obviously, we discuss it. The actress explains that she is delighted with the change in mentalities that has been happening over the previous 4 years. “After Vanessa’s story, there was The big family, by Camille Kouchner (Seuil, 2021), which also contributed to changing mentalities. I'm glad we can finally talk about this topic. »

How many children have been abused by adults who made them believe they wanted a romantic relationship?

Ludivine Sagnier read The consent shortly after its release in January 2020. This testimony shocked her. She immediately agreed to slip into this role when director Sébastien Davis offered it to her. “I couldn’t refuse. Firstly because Sébastien is a childhood friend. Then because this text offers readers the means to identify the manipulation mechanisms used by sexual predators. I think it is important that the youngest have these keys,” insists the actress, mom of three women aged 9, 15 and 19.

For her, “it was obvious that this story had to be told to as many people as possible. It was even a duty. How many children of this generation have been abused by adults who made them believe that they wanted to form a romantic relationship with them despite their age difference? How many continue to be victims of such actions? » she asks.

Early roles

At 44, Ludivine Sagnier realized that her career led her almost naturally to this role. Not that she herself was a victim of abuse during her career… “It’s just that one of the first roles I played, when I was 8 years old, was that of a child confronted with an old pervert,” she factors out. It was in a small theater class in Sèvres, run by Martine d'Yd-Hieronimus. Sébastien Davis (already him) carried out, along with her, the Satyr of La Villette by René de Obaldia, a chunk created in 1963.

ITS IDEAL SUNDAY : “I have simple pleasures. For me, a weekend is successful if I was able to sleep in, read in bed and above all… organize a big brunch that mixes friends and family. I love cooking for my loved ones. And I confess to being very greedy! »

“At the time, I didn't really understand all the implications of this text where a little girl ridicules an elderly man who makes advances towards her. But this play was already about that,” she says. Before including that by probability she then performed within the entrance examination to the Versailles conservatory, nonetheless with Sébastien Davis, a dialogue between Agnès and Arnolphe taken from Women's faculty by Molière. Here once more the theme of an grownup's management over a younger lady is evoked. “I was 14 then. That's Vanessa Springora's age when she met Matzneff. It’s dizzying when you think about it! » she exclaims.

Revealed by the cinema of François Ozon (Water drops on hot stones, 8 Women, Swimming pool…), Ludivine Sagnier was quick to embrace an international career at the turn of the 2000s, notably with the Peter Pan by Paul John Hogan, where she plays Tinkerbell. It was while working in the United States that she began to see these “intimacy coordinators” seem on units who supervise intercourse scenes. She applauds with each fingers the latest importation into France of such “referents”.

READ ALSO Meeting with François Gabart: “Solitude has never been a need for me” According to him, these will not be “gadgets” invented by a prudish American society. “Thanks to these professionals, the filming of love scenes is now supervised. Actors who might be bothered by this now have someone to talk to about any possible discomfort they may be experiencing,” she says. These new type of “coaches” are additionally there to keep away from slip-ups. “I was lucky, I always came across respectful play partners,” she confides. But I do know that's not the case for everybody. While I’ve by no means been traumatized by a filming expertise, there are quite a few examples that show the usefulness of such intimacy coordinators. They nonetheless should be correctly skilled. »

In the 90s, flirting was generally very heavy on the units.

If she explains that she has not been confronted with predators, the actress however acknowledges having been the goal of vulgar feedback or habits… “In the 90s, flirting was sometimes done in a very heavy manner on the sets” , she slips. She received't say extra. On Gérard Depardieu, encountered on the set of Cyrano de Bergerac when she was 11, she says she has no complaints. And after we point out the determine of Harvey Weinstein, who invited her to the Ritz to satisfy her when she was solely 20 years outdated, she merely says: “At no time did I feel in danger. »

In retrospect, she tells herself that it was because she was well surrounded then and she always had a balanced life. “Sexual predators generally prey on vulnerable people. At least to people who have a flaw: a failing mother or an absent father. Which was not my case,” she analyzes.

When she seems again, only some journalists' feedback appear significantly misplaced as we speak. “They came from American journalists who were surprised to see the naturalness with which I moved naked in Swimming pool by François Ozon. By focusing on the subject when I am a very modest girl in reality, they ended up making me uncomfortable…”

In just a few days, spectators will discover Ludivine Sagnier in Franklin, a historic sequence broadcast on AppleTV +. She performs Anne-Louise Brillon de Jouy (1744-1824), a French composer who was near Benjamin Franklin. She performs reverse Michael Douglas, who performs the signatory of the American Constitution, the primary ambassador of the United States to France.

The similar streaming platform will even broadcast, in May, the lengthy model of the Napoleon by Ridley Scott, through which she starred however whose scenes have been minimize within the model proven in theaters final 12 months. Also within the fall, she will probably be starring within the movie adaptation of Nicolas Mathieu's novel Their kids after them.

Committed citizen

In the meantime, she devotes herself to her position as director of the “actors” division of the Kourtrajmé faculty, based in 2018 in Montfermeil by administrators Romain Gavras, Ladj Ly and Kim Chapiron, her husband. “The section I am in charge of has trained, every year for the past four years, a dozen young people from neighborhoods who, without this establishment, would probably never have considered turning to the seventh art,” she says.

Since the varsity existed, almost forty actors have graduated. Among them, Lisa Nyarko, within the credit of the horror movie Vermin, final December. But additionally Moussa Cissé or Abdallah Charki, revelation of the movie My a part of Gauls by Malik Chibane. “These young people are the next generation of French cinema,” she enthuses.

*The consent by Vanessa Springora, with the musician Pierre Belleville, directed by Sébastien Davis on the Théâtre du Rond-Point (Paris 8e) till April 6.

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