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ITV/PA Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak at the ITV debateITV/PA

Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer confronted one another of their first televised debate of the election marketing campaign and traded claims on tax, the NHS and small boat crossings.

BBC Verify has been inspecting them.

£2,000 further tax per household?

Like the Conservatives, Labour has promised to not enhance revenue tax, National Insurance or VAT throughout the subsequent Parliament, however Rishi Sunak mentioned: “Independent Treasury officials have costed Labour’s policies and they amount to a £2,000 tax rise for every working family.”

That quote dangers deceptive individuals, and the prime minister talked about the £2,000 determine 9 instances throughout the debate.

As properly because the £2,000 determine being questionable, it is actually totting up greater than £500 a yr further over 4 years, which isn’t what you’ll usually consider if any individual mentioned your taxes have been going up by £2,000.

The determine relies on including up how a lot the Conservatives declare Labour’s spending plans would value – utilizing some doubtful assumptions – and dividing this by the variety of UK households with at the very least one particular person working.

The Conservatives say the costings have been labored out by neutral civil servants, however a letter seen by the BBC from the highest civil servant on the Treasury says the calculation of Labour’s plans costing £38.5bn general (and subsequently £2,000 per family over 4 years) “should not be presented as having been produced by the Civil Service”.

James Bowler wrote: “As you will expect, civil servants were not involved in the production or representation of the Conservative Party’s document ‘Labour Tax Rises’ or in the calculation of the total figure used.”

The level is that whereas civil servants have been concerned with understanding the costings of some particular person measures, they have been working inside assumptions made by Conservative-appointed particular advisers.

For instance, one costing seems at Labour’s plan to have extra providers supplied by the state as a substitute of by non-public firms and it assumes that personal firms are at all times 7.5% extra environment friendly.

But the civil servants doing the costings warned they’d “low confidence” in the usage of that determine.

Labour has additionally disputed that a number of the gadgets within the file are their precise insurance policies. We gained’t know precisely what Labour’s insurance policies are – and the way they are going to be funded – till we see its manifesto, which has not but been printed.

Keir Starmer mentioned throughout the debate that the file was based mostly on “pretend Labour policies”, together with “a mental health policy that isn’t the Labour Party’s policy”.

You can learn extra concerning the tax declare right here.

Is it Conservative coverage to abolish National Insurance?

Keir Starmer responded with an enormous variety of his personal, saying of Rishi Sunak: “He told us it’s their policy to get rid of National Insurance (NI) altogether – that’s £46bn.”

He’s proper that abolishing employees’ NI would value about £46bn.

But the prime minister has not mentioned he would do that throughout the subsequent Parliament.

He advised MPs in May “we have a long-term ambition to keep cutting National Insurance”, and promised to “make progress towards that goal in the next Parliament”, however to not abolish it fully.

The chancellor has mentioned it’s one thing he would do when the financial system has grown by sufficient to make it inexpensive and conceded that it could not occur earlier than 2030.

The £46bn is certainly one of a sequence of figures that Labour have compiled right into a £71bn file, a lot of which aren’t Tory pledges for the approaching Parliament.

You can learn extra about it right here.

Are taxes going up or down?

Rishi Sunak mentioned “taxes are now being cut”, however Keir Starmer mentioned taxes “are at the highest level for 70 years”.

They are each appropriate however are speaking about various things.

The authorities has lower NI twice, saving an worker on the common full-time wage of £35,000 about £900 this yr.

But on the identical time, the quantity of tax taken as a proportion of the scale of the financial system is predicted to achieve a 70-year-high within the subsequent 5 years.

That is essentially as a result of the factors – often known as thresholds – at which we begin paying tax and better charges of tax have been frozen.

This means extra persons are paying tax and better charges of tax, than if these thresholds had risen together with inflation.

It is essential to level out that the thresholds are to stay frozen below each the Conservatives and Labour till 2028.

You can learn extra about it right here.

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Have NHS ready lists risen?

Keir Starmer challenged Rishi Sunak to clarify how NHS ready lists are coming down in the event that they’re at 7.5 million now in contrast with “7.2 million when you said you would get them down”.

Starmer is appropriate about these figures.

Waiting lists in England have fallen from their peak final September, however are nonetheless increased than when Sunak pledged to chop them, in January 2023.

Last September, ready lists rose to a peak of almost 7.8 million.

But as you may see within the chart under, they’ve fallen from that peak. So, Sunak was proper to say “waiting lists are coming down” in that sense.

Chart showing waiting lists in England, which have come down from the their recent peaks

Are small boat crossings down by a 3rd?

Talking about individuals arriving in small boats throughout the English Channel, Rishi Sunak mentioned: “We got the numbers down last year by a third.”

That is appropriate – the numbers in 2023 have been a 3rd decrease than in 2022.

But the quantity of people that have crossed to this point this yr is at a document excessive – up greater than a 3rd on the identical interval final yr.

Mr Sunak went on to say: “Over the last 12 months, the number of crossings are down a third.”

That shouldn’t be fairly appropriate.

As of three June, the variety of individuals detected crossing within the final 12 months was 32,338.

This was down by 1 / 4 – or 11,043 individuals – from the earlier 12 months – not by a 3rd.

Line chart showing the number of people crossing the English channel by boat between 2020 and 2024 so far. 2020 has the lowest total of below 10,000 people while 2022 has the highest, at about 47,000. In the figures to 3 June this year the total is 10,511 which is the highest for the same period of any year
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