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Daniel Günther (CDU), 50, has been head of presidency of Schleswig-Holstein since 2017. Before that, he was a state minister and a councilor in his hometown of Eckernförde for 16 years.

WORLD ON SUNDAY: Mr Günther, everybody agrees that the European election result’s a critical defeat for the visitors mild coalition. But what do the 30 % imply for the Union – successful or extra of a warning?

Daniel Günther: It is successful that we have now turn out to be by far the strongest drive. However, given the large lack of confidence within the visitors mild coalition, our purpose should be to realize considerably greater than 30 % sooner or later.

WORLD ON SUNDAY: In East Germany, the AfD has turn out to be the strongest celebration nearly throughout the board. Why is that?

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Günther: There are definitely a number of causes for this. One of them is the plain distance within the japanese German states from the political system in Berlin, which many individuals now not really feel represented by. But in fact the frustration with the politics and actions of the federal authorities additionally contributes to this. This is even better within the japanese German states than within the west.

But please don't misunderstand: In Schleswig-Holstein, the AfD additionally acquired greater than twelve % of the vote. In the state elections two years in the past, they didn't even make it into parliament. Overall, that’s worrying. We must admit that we’re now not reaching too many individuals – within the East in addition to within the West.

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Quelle: WELT TV/Dorothea Schupelius

WORLD ON SUNDAY: In your first response to the AfD's success, you referred to as for the established events to work collectively extra. Isn't it extra the case that the CDU/CSU must distance itself extra from the visitors mild events if it desires to achieve success?

Günther: No, I don't assume that's the best method to do it. The reply to the rising power of the fringes should not be for the democratic events to accentuate their disputes amongst themselves. A big a part of the inhabitants longs for politicians to behave in a extra solution-oriented method. This expectation exists not solely of the respective governing events, but additionally of the biggest opposition celebration. We ought to do our half to make sure that our nation develops in the best path in these instances of disaster.

WORLD ON SUNDAY: The central level of competition on the federal degree is whether or not the debt brake must be relaxed for investments within the financial system and assist for Ukraine. What is your place?

Günther: In precept, it’s proper and essential that we have now the debt brake. It forces politicians to set priorities. This will proceed to be essential sooner or later. However, we’re at present in a scenario the place it will likely be essential for the state to make important investments. That is why I’m keen to speak about proposals from financial analysis institutes or the Federation of German Industries, for instance…

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WORLD ON SUNDAY: … who this week referred to as for a particular fund, i.e. further debt, for the state's financial investments.

Günther: As I mentioned, there are proposals on the desk that we must always speak about. An important level for higher financial improvement, nevertheless, can be how we lastly give corporations extra freedom. Much of the frustration in our nation is brought on by extreme forms, the numerous lack of belief and the dearth of appreciation for our entrepreneurs.

The financial system is conscious of its want for transformation, and it additionally has the mandatory willingness to alter – nevertheless it has authentic doubts as as to whether this want for change can be slowed down by the agonizing slowness and extreme regulatory frenzy.

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AfD Federal Chairwoman Alice Weidel in good mood after the European elections

WORLD ON SUNDAY: Would you even be in favour of further particular funds for the German armed forces and arms help for Ukraine?

Günther: We will want further funds, on the newest after the present particular funds have been exhausted, to equip the Bundeswehr because it must be in these instances. The concern of protection has absolute precedence in the meanwhile.

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WORLD ON SUNDAY: One concern that’s clearly driving folks in the direction of the AfD is migration. The federal authorities, the states and the EU have been tinkering with this concern for years. Do you will have any concept tips on how to transfer ahead?

Günther: There are not any straightforward options to restrict migration. Populists promise that, however that’s merely a lie. First of all, we must be sincere and never inform folks fairy tales.

WORLD ON SUNDAY: But honesty doesn’t remedy the issue.

Günther: The federal and state governments have agreed on measures to restrict and management immigration. But implementation just isn’t taking place rapidly or constantly sufficient. Checks have been in place once more on the borders with Poland, the Czech Republic and Switzerland since mid-October, which has considerably diminished the variety of unlawful immigrants. But extra border safety alone just isn’t sufficient. We want considerably extra repatriation and migration agreements. It is half-hearted to ship a federal authorities consultant to negotiations. This should be a matter for the boss, and Chancellor Olaf Scholz is known as upon to barter it. Much extra should be achieved than has been achieved up to now.

We have to return people who find themselves required to depart the nation extra rapidly, we’d like asylum procedures on the European exterior border and we have to be certain that folks don’t even make their method to Europe, for instance by having the asylum process happen in third international locations. I can not assist anybody who has not realised that there’s a want for motion after the results of the European elections.

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Sudanese refugees in Renk, a town in South Sudan
UN World Refugee Report

WORLD ON SUNDAY: On Thursday, the state premiers will meet with the Chancellor as soon as once more for the MPK. One of the issues agreed was that Olaf Scholz and Interior Minister Nancy Faeser would current a report on the feasibility of the third-country regulation. Do you consider that this regulation is legally sound?

Günther: Absolutely, in any other case we Christian Democrats wouldn’t have supported them.

WORLD ON SUNDAY: There are a number of methods to implement such a 3rd nation regulation: straight on the EU borders or in Africa, in international locations like Rwanda. Your suggestion?

Günther: We want to debate this with one another, however it might make sense for the asylum procedures to be accomplished earlier than folks embark on life-threatening journeys to Europe.

WORLD ON SUNDAY: After the summer season break, elections can be held in three japanese German states. Your celebration chief Friedrich Merz has already dominated out cooperation with Sahra Wagenknecht's coalition – on the federal degree. What does that imply for the states?

Günther: The most essential purpose in these elections is to forestall the AfD from taking over authorities duty. We have the potential to supply the prime minister and lead the state authorities in all three federal states. When folks vote for the CDU, they count on {that a} strong state authorities can be fashioned on the finish. An election victory just isn’t a wishful considering, however a mandate from the voters.

WORLD ON SUNDAY: So you don’t assume it’s a good suggestion to increase the ban on cooperation with the AfD and the Left to the Sahra Wagenknecht (BSW) alliance?

Günther: I can solely assist our Thuringian state chairman Mario Voigt: It is primarily the state associations that should resolve which coalition can be fashioned within the states after the state elections. That can be how I understood Friedrich Merz.

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Anton Hofreiter (Greens)

WORLD ON SUNDAY: I ponder if Merz likes to listen to that? He is extra of a confrontational politician – and the best candidate for chancellor for the Union?

Günther: What does confrontational imply? The events should be distinguishable, they want completely different profiles in order that voters can select. In a democracy there should be a contest of concepts. Friedrich Merz is clearly elevating the profile of the CDU. He does this very effectively as celebration and Union parliamentary group chief.

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Hendrik Wüst (l.) and Friedrich Merz (both CDU)
Rival of Friedrich Merz

WORLD ON SUNDAY: CSU chief Markus Söder just lately mentioned that the CDU is as soon as once more debating the perfect candidate for the chancellorship. Is that true?

Günther: I definitely don't have as a lot perception into this as Markus Söder does from the skin. In any case, I haven't heard something about such a debate.

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