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Home Secretary James Cleverly insisted a parliamentary aide who described the Rwanda plans as “crap” did it for dramatic impact.

James Sunderland advised a Young Conservatives occasion that there was “no doubt at all” that the getting flights off the bottom would ship “such a shockwave across the Channel” that the gangs would cease.

But he opened by telling the viewers “the policy is crap, OK? It’s crap”.

Mr Cleverly stated his aide was supportive of the coverage and its deterrent impact, however was making a degree to seize the eye of his viewers.

The Home Secretary advised Sky News’ Sunday Morning with Trevor Phillips that Mr Sunderland was “very supportive” of the coverage.

“I’ve had a conversation with him and I’ve also heard the recording. And it’s clear what he’s doing is he’s putting forward a very counterintuitive statement to grab the attention of the audience,” Mr Cleverly added.

“If you actually listen to what he then went on to say, he was saying that the impact, the effect, is what matters.”

The Home Secretary stated: “He did it clearly for dramatic effect to grab the attention of the audience.

“But he is – and it’s clear in the recording – completely supportive of the deterrent effect that the Rwanda policy has.”

In a recording handed to the BBC, Mr Sunderland is heard telling a personal occasion his ideas on the plan to ship asylum seekers on a one-way journey to the African nation.

Mr Sunderland, who’s standing for re-election in Bracknell, stated: “The policy is crap, OK? It’s crap.”

Saying the “effect of the policy” was what mattered, he added: “There is no doubt at all that when those first flights take off that it will send such a shockwave across the Channel that the gangs will stop.”

Mr Sunderland advised the BBC he was “disappointed” at being recorded at a personal occasion.

He stated: “I was talking about the response to the policy. The policy itself is not the be all and end all, but part of a wider response.”