“Caren Miosga”: “War is the means of choosing Putin,” says Norbert Röttgen | EUROtoday

Norbert Röttgen suspected it. “I think it is impossible for a direct conversation” between Vladimir Putin and Wolodymyr Selenskyj, he forecasted on Wednesday on Deutschlandfunk. In truth, as a substitute of the 2 presidents, delegates of the second row in Istanbul lastly met. For this he praised the “European determination” that had been proven up to now few days.

To the query “Putin moves Selenskyj – and Europe watches?” The CDU overseas politician additionally appeared at Caren Miosga on Sunday. As different friends, she welcomed the diplomat Rüdiger von Fritsch, safety professional Claudia Major and journalists Heribert Prantl and Vassili Golod.

“War is the means of choosing Putin,” stated Norbert Röttgen with regard to the efforts in Turkey and the most recent drone assaults on Ukraine. “He has a historical idea. He does not accept that Russia is a country like others, but he sees the Russian self -image of being an empire that prevails.” Due to the stress that Europeans and Donald Trump had exercised on him, Putin needed to react, however the choices in Istanbul had been in the end solely an “evasive maneuver”. “There was never the will to really negotiate.”

In precept, the diplomatic efforts are good, dominated Claudia Major, however there are utterly completely different understanding of diplomacy between Russia and the western states. The West is anxious with exhibiting willingness to speak and making compromises to finish the conflict. From the Russian perspective, nonetheless, diplomacy is a distinct technique of gaining conflict. There have been talks about prisoner exchanges or the grain settlement, however Russia has not been keen to compromise up to now few weeks or up to now three years.

The Vassili Golod, who had spoken to representatives of the Ukrainian delegation, was additionally sobered. The Russians would have allotted with a “hand shake”, had remained within the case of most calls for, carried out objectively within the pitch, however by way of content material, “very, very sharp”. The Russian delegation chief Vladimir Medinski ought to have stated that “some of them had lost at the Ukrainian table in the war of attack. And if one would not adhere to the Russian demands, it would be more relatives who die.”

Said Medinski is neither a diplomatic negotiator nor a political heavyweight, defined Rüdiger von Fritsch. Rather, the chief of the Russian delegation in Istanbul is without doubt one of the “bad ideologues and history of history of Russian leadership”. He clitters the historical past and thus legitimizes Putin’s rule. This in flip lacks willingness to finish the conflict in negotiations. “We have to make it clear that a solution does not work in our logic, but in Putin’s logic,” stated the diplomat, “and its logic is not that of an abstract need for harmony”.

Heribert Prantl struggled with the positions of his co -discussants. He described the latest efforts in Turkey as a “introduction to the entry” in negotiations. “I know that you have to try it because there are no other options,” insisted the previous editor -in -chief of the Süddeutsche Zeitung. As a mediator, he’s unusual the way in which he was negotiating “the pistol on the table” by threatening with new sanctions. Instead, he proposed to make use of the reprisals as a “negotiating mass” and to vow to abolish them.

According to Röttgen, US sanctions might make an impression on Putin

Would Putin be capable to get into steering? “I don’t know – you don’t know either!” Replied a visibly irritated prantl. “Yes, I tried it in Moscow for five years,” replied von Fritsch. He unsuccessfully appealed to Putin and Lavrow to hunt an answer in dialogue. Why ought to the Russian president become involved if it doesn’t correspond to his logic? “I can’t look into Putin’s head. You may be able to do it because they were sitting opposite him,” Prantl thought of it. Historically, peace negotiations are “tedious” and “tough”.

The debate has a central query for Röttgen. “What could move him to refrain from the war as a means of politics he chose?” He advocated placing additional stress on Putin with the assistance of the upcoming sanction packages, making certain higher assist from Ukraine and on the identical time “keeping the US president at our side”. When Trump got here to the conclusion, Putin dance “on his nose” and it might come to American sanctions, then that may be the success that European diplomacy would attempt and that may make an impression on Putin.

Whether the Kremlin doesn’t chortle on the sanctions? Asked Caren Miosga. “No, not at all,” replied von Fritsch. “The effect is tremendous.” Russia has a civil recession, an inflation of ten %, a meals inflation of greater than twelve %. In addition, the central financial institution has a key rate of interest of 21 %, which has introduced investments to a standstill. And two -thirds of the Russian reserves have already been used up. “He plays the game: who stops the air longer?” Explained the previous ambassador. “This is a matter of time. Vladimir Putin does not last forever.”

Dominik Lippe experiences commonly for the world concerning the night political discuss reveals. The studied biologist is a graduate of the Axel Springer Freetech Academy.